Beth 1:12

Hey everyone. It's Beth McCord, your Enneagram coach, and this is your Enneagram coach, the podcast, and we're here to help you to understand yourself with astonishing clarity so that you can break free from self condemnation, fear, and shame by knowing and experiencing the unconditional love, forgiveness, and freedom in Christ. Well, if you weren't listening to the last podcast, you definitely are gonna need to go back to that one. Why? Well, we are going through the hit show, Ted Lasso and we're looking at the characters Ted Lasso and his therapist, Dr. Sharon Fieldstone. Now Ted is a fun loving type seven who, when he is not doing well, is super hyperactive, deflecting, spinning negative to fun. Really trying everything possible to not look at the negative in life and only be in the positive. But then Dr. Sharon is a type one, the principled reformer, and she finds that it's her responsibility and her duty to be principled and professional and to make sure that she helps her clients, Ted, being one of them, to look into their inner world and to heal and grow, but to do it in a very sober, appropriate manner. Which Ted doesn't really follow, does he? So the two of them, their dynamics, their natural way of being when they're not progressing towards growth, actually clashes together. Now, this is true for any two Enneagram types. When any two Enneagram types are not at their healthiest, they're gonna clash. Even two types that are the same. And people ask me all the time, okay, well Beth, who are the best two types relationally together? Well, and I always tell them it's the two types that are the healthiest, and I'm absolutely serious by that. You can have two eights that are phenomenal together when they're healthy, and two eights that are. Unhealthy and destructive. But the same is true for two nines. When they are healthy, man, are they amazing? But when they are unhealthy, they are literally catatonic and they can't even figure out the next thing to do because they're both trying to people please each other. But this goes with any relationship dynamic. We're unfolding for you right before your eyes clips of a type seven Ted lasso and a type one Dr. Sharon. And as they go from less health to more health. So the last episode, we really showed you when they were less healthy and just beginning to, um, kind of get into a more healthy growth mindset for both of them and how they can meet each other halfway now. They were just at the beginning parts of that, which was really fun to watch unfold. But in these next four clips I'm gonna show you, um, we're gonna actually see them grow even more. But don't forget, growth isn't just taking steps forward. It's usually a few steps forwards and maybe a few steps back or a, a step back or, you know, it's is and blows all the time. We wish it just only went forward. But that's just not how life is, and we're gonna watch that play out with them. But what's so neat about the Enneagram is once you understand what's going on internally and why you can navigate your internal life a little bit better, because you'll know I need to ask for God's help right now because I am veering off my healthiest path. And if I keep going, I'm gonna fall into that same common pitfall and get stuck like I do time and time again. That's why the Enneagram is so helpful. We don't have to heap on shame and self-condemnation on ourselves. We can actually go, oh, here I am again. I was not paying attention. Just like we're on a road and we kind of veer off course into the ditch, if you're not paying attention, we need those rumble strips. You know those things on the side of the highway that alert you, that wake you up, that you are veering off course. And that's what the Enneagram can do for us. It can alert us that we're doing our types habitual patterns of thinking, feeling and behaving that create negative outcomes. And when we are alert and become aware of it, The next thing is to then steer our life back into the healthier path, the path that was designed for us, that actually is the overflow of our heart and blesses not only our own life, but those around us. And that's what we're gonna start to see with Ted and Dr. Sharon today, the day. Hello?

Dr. Shannon 5:59

Hi, Bridget. Sorry I'm late. Come on. You know the only thing better than a patient being late is one doesn't turn up at all. So where did we leave off? Uh, let's see. I have it in my notes. Oh yeah. Ted Lasso is driving me fucking crazy, right? He refuses to open up and when he gets anywhere close to being vulnerable, he fires off a zinger, some obscure reference to something very specific to a four year old white man from middle America. So he's refusing to be vulnerable, right? Sounds like someone I know. Stop it. Me and coach less are nothing alike. Sharon, you do the same thing. He uses humor to deflect you. Use your intelligence, please. I didn't harness my disadvantage nature to alienate people and isolate myself. Okay, I hear that.

Beth 6:47

So the beginning of this clip, what you're gonna see is Dr. Sharon on the phone with her own therapist and her own therapist. Bluntly points out that she and Ted are actually very similar because they both struggle to be vulnerable. They just do it in different ways. Ted deflects with humor and Sharon deflects with her intellect. I doubt

Dr. Shannon 7:09

you'll make any headway with Coach Lasso until you let your guard down yourself and meet him halfway. You are right. Of course I'm right

Beth 7:17

now. What are you gonna do about it? Now? Her therapist encourages Sharon to meet Ted halfway by embracing vulnerability about her own self so that he can connect with her and then he can be vulnerable with her. Now, she's kind of hesitant about going in this direction. But she then reluctantly agrees. However, before Dr. Karen can fully explore this like newfound insight that her therapist gave her, an unfortunate event happens to her as she is riding her bike to work, which is her favorite thing to do. She actually gets hit by a car causing a concussion and needing stitches. And when she's at the hospital, she is super frustrated when she sees the person who shows up to take her home. Yep, you got that right Ted Lasso. And Ted, as you'll see in this clip, is super fun and exciting, witty, playful, all the things that are gonna frustrate a type one when they're not at their best. She's like, I'm perfectly fine to take care of myself, being very principled and grounded, not wanting anything to do with this silly character, but the doctor at the hospital says, no can-do. Someone has to take you home. That's hospital protocol. So she's stuck with Ted? Oh

Ted 8:38

no. Oh, it's worse than I imagine. She can walk again. Woo. It's a miracle. Oh, thank God for science. Hey doc. Doc. Gonna be okay,

Dr. Shannon 8:53

doc? Yes. That scan

Beth 8:54

seem fine. Good. Oh, well, she does have a concussion and she's had a couple stitches in her head, so you'll need to rest for a few days. Okay. But apart from that, your husband can take you home right

Dr. Shannon 9:03

now. Oh, he's not my

Ted 9:05

husband. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ain't no ring on these fingers. No. We're just friends, colleagues, friendly colleagues. I don't have a husband. Yeah. But not in a sad way. You know, she's just fiercely independent

Dr. Shannon 9:15

and I'm perfectly capable of taking my cell phone. See what I mean? Uh, I'm sorry.

Beth 9:19

Dr. Phil Stern hospital policy states they head trauma patients. They cannot leave unattended.

Ted 9:24

Ooh. And there ain't no policy like a hospital policy cause a hospital policy. Don't stop. Let me

Beth 9:29

help you out with that, sweetheart. Yeah, well once they arrive at her home, Ted. Refuses to go quickly. He becomes a little hyper. His communication style is silly and he's trying to connect with her. He's trying to see if he can help in some form or fashion. Thank

Dr. Shannon 9:49

you for walking me home. I'm good from here.

Ted 9:51

Well, that's the fifth time you've said that. I'll just set this puppy down and I'll skedaddle. Yeah, there you go. Good spot for there. Go. Oh. So you gonna get a new bike or maybe going lay off riding around for a little bit?

Dr. Shannon 10:10

I dunno. I haven't

Ted 10:11

thought about it. Yeah. Well I hope you get back on that horse. And by horse I mean bicycle. Although how cool would it be if you started riding a horse to work? You know, everybody starts calling you a Dr. Sharon. Horse. Woman or becomes your hook.

Dr. Shannon 10:22

I really should get some rest.

Ted 10:24

Hey, ten four. Good buddy. Go. Good colleague,

Beth 10:28

but she wants nothing to do with it. And so what she shows is emotional coldness and she's cur and her responses to him and really pushes him at a distance.

Ted 10:39

Yeah. All right. No, I'll let you go here and, uh, hey, you just gimme a holler if you need anything. All right. You know, um, you got quite scared

Dr. Shannon 10:46

today and my job is teaching people how to overcome exactly what happened to me. I'm fine. Thank you. Goodbye, coach Lasso. Yeah. All right. Now

Ted 10:57

take care.

Beth 11:01

Now Ted starts to get the point, especially when she says, Hey, I'm tired and I need time to heal. And he says, okay. But in one last attempt, Ted says that she can call him whenever she wants because she went through a scary situation and instead of being thankful and warm, She shows a cold demeanor, judgmental and critical display by telling him that this is her profession to help others through si similar situations that she went through, and that she will be just fine, basically closing the door right behind him. Well, what you'll see in the clip also is that Dr. Sharon, later that night really is reflecting on her day. And while she's reflecting, Ted surprises her with a phone call because he wants to check up on her. He says that, you know, it's protocol with concussions that someone check in with you every 20 minutes, but of course he's not gonna do it in the normal way. He has to do it in the fun seven way that he is going to change his voice every time he talks to her. And he does it for the first time there. Which makes her giggle.

Dr. Shannon 12:14

Hello, coach Las. Say, Hey,

Ted 12:16

doc. So tonight I'm just going to keep checking in on you every 20 minutes or so. You know, a standard concussion protocol, but I'm gonna change my voice every time I call you. So it stays exciting for you. Have you been feeling dizzy or nauseous? So that's what it sounds like

Beth 12:30

when you laugh. Now this giggle unlocks a lightheartedness in Dr. Karen and it lifts her spirits, even if it was momentarily. Now the interaction between the type one, Dr. Sharon and the Type seven Ted Lasso is very significant. Here we see the potential of growth and healing in their relationship because this is where Dr. Sharon decides to be vulnerable and to open up.

Dr. Shannon 12:59

I'm fine. Coach Lasso.

Ted 13:02

Well then I'll talk to you in 20 minutes or so, is Slingblade. Mm-hmm.

Dr. Shannon 13:06

Hey Ted? Yes. I was scared today. Really scared. I love riding my bike. It's my happy place. And after today I was worried I'll be too scared to enjoy riding ever again. Well, I would say

Ted 13:26

that fears a lot like underwear.

Dr. Shannon 13:27

No, I don't wanna discuss it. I don't need to pep talk. Ted. I just wanted to tell you how I was feeling.

Ted 13:34

Well, I appreciate it. It means a lot and I'm

Dr. Shannon 13:37

glad

Beth 13:38

I did it. This is where she decides to share with Ted that that morning she was very fearful. Now he tries to twist it and make it fun, and she says, no, Ted, I just wanted to share this with you, and he's respectful and lets her go. But she demonstrates what it means to be vulnerable. I. To press into the relationship and to share. She sets the stage for what's to come and to help Ted to go into his fear the next time they meet. This is gonna be a really strong moment for both of them. Now, the next clip we're gonna see is, Really interesting. The next clip you're gonna see, you're gonna find yourself with all of the coaches from Richmond getting ready to go out, uh, to the pitch, what they call it, or the field for the next soccer game. So they're waiting, um, in the coach's room. Oh

Dr. Shannon 14:36

yeah. I was hoping for that.

Ted 14:44

You good coach? Oh yeah. No, I, I'm just doing some breathing exercises that Doc taught me. That's all Hope. It's not stomach problems. Again, tell me he didn't need a bro cocktail. No,

Beth 14:57

never. And while they're waiting and the coaches are preparing, Ted takes a big, deep breath. He closes his eyes and he tries to center himself. But this catches the coaches off guard. They've never heard Teds like that, so they think something's gotta be wrong and they press in to ask, are you okay? Thinking maybe he was sick again. But he says, no, I'm just trying to do some breathing exercises that Dr. Sharon told me about. So you start to see that this beautiful Type seven is looking inward. He's trying to calm his inner world down and to practice the things that Dr. Sharon has showed him. This is where you see his connecting types. The type one and the Type five on the Enneagram symbol really start to come in and powerful, helpful ways. The Type five allows him to look inward. And the type one allows him to be present and responsible and to do the right next thing, which is to be fully present and to actually say the truth. And what you're gonna see is he's going to tell the coaches the truth of what happened on the field that day with his panic attack, that he didn't have food poisoning. Truth prevails. Those breathing exercises help the seven to calm down and the five to be able to bring to mind what is true and accurate, and the one to be principled and to speak that truth. Uh,

Dr. Shannon 16:25

guys,

Ted 16:26

it's time. Hey fellas. Hold on a second. Um, I, I need to, I'll tell you something, um, when I left the match against Tottenham, it it, it wasn't, cuz uh, you know, my stomach was bothering me. Uh, it, it was cuz I had a panic attack. I've been having him from time to time as of late and I'm working on it, but I just want y'all to know the truth. We good? Good. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. Cool. Okay. All right. All right, let's go get him. Works for me. 1, 2, 3. But

Beth 17:05

isn't that beautiful and isn't that inspiring to watch Ted from where we saw him earlier, from hyperactive and scattered fleeing from all pain to grounding him himself, being present, being still, and knowing that he can move with truth, that the truth will set him free. And that he can trust others with where he is at in the moment and that he can trust himself to navigate this moment. Now, this is really hard work because he's facing, again, his greatest fear, but when he does that, when he enters his greatest fear on the other side is his greatest as freedom. Now, these last two intense clips are a huge pivot. In his ability to go to hard places. He actually faces some of his greatest fears in these moments, but continues to press. In this next clip, what we are going to see is very intense and it triggers Ted at the core where his greatest wound is from his childhood. Now see, the scene opens up. What you're gonna see is Jamie Tart Richmond star player being mocked and teased. By his own father in the team locker room after the game that they just lost to Manchester City. Uh,

Dr. Shannon 18:27

Mr. Tarp, you have a visitor, says he's your father. Yeah, I told you Dick, we only ever be, uh, everybody we play, so you pops have no chance. Don't speak to me like that. Just made it easy up for Manchester City to kick you to the curb. Don't change it back on me. Oh, ah. Ah. Oh yeah. Okay. You can have that one for free. Don't you forget where you came from. Watch the door.

Beth 18:59

Oops. As tensions escalate, Jamie ends up punching his own father and self-defense in front of the entire team. And coach beer swiftly intervenes and escorts Jamie's father out of the locker room. But what you see, Is Jamie completely frozen in a mixture of shame and pain while the team sits there emotionally stunned by watching the emotional turmoil unfold before them. But it's also in this very moment that you see Roy Kent, a type eight step in and fill the void of what Jamie's father should do, and he approaches him and compassionately embraces him. As the protector he needs, he supports Jamie as he suffers and cries with sorrow and pain. The camera then scans to Ted, whose eyes are welled up with tears. He is visibly disheartened and caught off guard by the heart wrenching father son dynamic that he just witnessed overwhelmed by his own flood of emotions. Ted abruptly leaves the locker room while Roy is able to take care of Jamie while he's gone. Now outside you're gonna see that Ted reaches out to Dr. Sharon and he does the best that he can to muster up courage to share with her his absolute greatest pain. Coach

Dr. Shannon 20:51

lesser,

Ted 20:55

my father killed himself when I was 16. That happened to me and. It's my mom.

Dr. Shannon 21:08

I'm so sorry, Ted.

Ted 21:10

And look, I don't know if that's where maybe some of my issues stem from. No,

Dr. Shannon 21:14

it definitely

Ted 21:15

is. Right. Don't that make sense?

Dr. Shannon 21:19

Do you wanna talk about it now?

Ted 21:23

No. No, not right now. I, I need to get back inside of the team. I just wanted

Dr. Shannon 21:27

you to know. Okay. Thank you for telling me Ted. Please call if you need me.

Ted 21:36

I will. I will. I'm sorry. I will.

Dr. Shannon 21:39

It's okay. Goodnight, Ted.

Beth 21:49

He is able to take that next step of painful growth. By revealing what hurts the most. He's aware that he can't reveal all the details in this moment because the team is still back in the locker room, but that he wanted to quickly reveal this to her while it was still so activated in him. And of course, Dr. Sharon is very grateful and thankful for him to open up. Her response is very warm and receptive, genuine and soft, which allows the healing to take place. It's truly remarkable to witness the growth of a relationship between a Type one and a Type seven in this way as they each continue to work on themselves, move towards each other halfway. Opening themselves up, being vulnerable and connecting on deeper levels. They are enabling not only themselves to grow and transform, but the other. And as we move forward into the next clip, what we're going to witness is the profound impact of Dr. Sharon's own personal journey of growth Has. On Ted because she has let go of the rigidity and the defensiveness and the boundaries, and has opened herself up with that warmth and kindness so that she can lay the groundwork for Ted to walk towards her and to express his truest and deepest pain. So what you're gonna see in this final clip is you're gonna see heroic strides in Ted as he takes really big steps in his own growth journey. Now he has a long ways to go. That's one thing that we can all trick ourselves, like, oh, I'd done it, now I get to move on. It is a lifelong process for growth, but in this clip, we see great strides within him. Now what you're gonna see at first is him singing and dancing as he's putting on a dress shirt and a tie to prepare for his boss's father's funeral. But as he attempts to put on his tie, You see his hand starting to tremble and he knows that another, a panic attack is starting to happen. Fear is now etched on his face. He is unable to control the flood of fear and pain coursing through his body.

Dr. Shannon 24:41

Good morning, Ted. Okay. Ted you are. Ted. You are. Okay. Just breathe. Just focus on your 4, 7, 8 breathing. You can come on. Just breathe. I'm on my way.

Beth 25:02

He reaches out to Dr. Sharon over the phone and that he needs help. She guides him each step of the way as she makes her way to his house. Now. When she arrives, we see his apartment. For the first time in disarray. Up till then, he would keep it tidy and clean. But this shows you the representation of the suffering. He has been enduring silently for quite some time.

Dr. Shannon 25:29

How you feeling Ted?

Ted 25:32

I'm better, you know, not great, but better.

Dr. Shannon 25:35

Good. Because when someone's not great, that allows me to get in there and do my thing. Yeah, may I sit down?

Ted 25:49

I wish your doctor would. Yeah.

Beth 25:53

She notices all of this and with warmth and presence. She genuinely engages with Ted, with great compassion and care. She asks him how he's feeling with a very supportive tone. Ted admits that he is doing better, but he's not great. To his surprise, Dr. Sharon says, great, I'm glad you're there, because as a type seven, he's like, what? I'm not that great, and you're happy? And she's like, yeah, because when my clients are better but not great, I can move in and intervene and facilitate deeper healing.

Dr. Shannon 26:32

Ted, it's not surprising that you had a panic attack. It's possible that going to this funeral would trigger memories of going to your own father's funeral.

Ted 26:42

Nope, nope, Nope. I didn't go to my dad's funeral. Okay. Why not? Because he quit. You know? He quit on his family. He quit on himself. I, I, and I hated him for that. I think I still hate

Dr. Shannon 27:06

him for it. I think you do too, Ted. And that's okay. What happened with your father is a difficult thing for anyone to make sense of, especially his teenage

Beth 27:18

son. He gets it. He understands and he shows her he's willing to work on it even more right now with her. So, Dr. Sharon sits down and invites Ted to share his story, the story of what happened with his father. So, And you get to hear the heart-wrenching tale of Ted's father suicide when he was 16 years old. And the great heartache that that unfolded for him and the hatred he had for his father, for giving up on him and his mom. Why

Dr. Shannon 27:54

don't you share with me what happened?

Ted 27:58

Um, I remember the date cause. Me and a bunch of high school buddies, were gonna do a marathon while I, Jason movies that night. So I, you know, came home from school as usual, and I went up to my room, I opened up the door, and there he was, screamed, choked, cried. Just ran upstairs and called 9 1 1. Went to the fridge, grabbed one of his Coors Lights, drank that, and I called my mom at work and let her know she needed to come home.

Dr. Shannon 28:49

I'm sorry that happened to you, Ted. Yeah, me too. And understand why you're angry with him. He took a lot away from you. Emma. Emma, mom. And your mom? Yes.

Beth 29:04

Now Dr. Sharon is fully attuned to his emotions, acknowledges his feelings, and understands thanking him for opening up, and she understands why he harbors this great anger and hatred towards his own father. She sits there with him in it, but she also invites him to share what he loved about his dad. Now, initially he looks at her with hesitance and resistance and she said, you shared with me what you hate about your father, but I wanna know what you loved about him.

Dr. Shannon 29:42

I'm curious about something he, what was he like?

Ted 29:47

He was a good man, you know, real chatter box, believe it or not, probably could have been a little bit better listening box at times.

Dr. Shannon 29:57

What did you love about him? Why you told me what you hate about him. I'd love to hear something you remember that made you feel

Beth 30:07

good. It takes him a little while to fully engage here, but when he does, he recounts a wonderful story about his father and how incredible he was and how his father saved the day for him. Once on a test

Ted 30:23

when I was in fifth or sixth grade, there was this book called Johnny Tremaine. And our homework for like a month was to read this book at the end of the month. I hadn't read Lick of It, and we had a test, big test the next day and the night before, I was anxious as all heck and I couldn't sleep. And my dad starts getting after me about that and I start crying and he's like, well buddy, what's wrong? What's wrong? And I tell him What's up? And he says, Hey, don't worry about it. Okay, just go up to your room, lay your head on your pillow and think about something you're looking forward to. So that's what I did. Next morning I wake up and he says, Hey, you ain't gonna ride your bike to school? I'm gonna drive you. I'm all right. And on the way to school, he parks me through the entire book, like it's a, uh, bedtime story or something. Cause he stayed up all night the whole night. Doing the whole damn thing cuz he didn't want his little boy stressed out over some stupid, silly test and I ended up getting that.

Beth 31:32

In this moment you see Ted's heart really expand with compassion towards his own father. He's recognizing the challenges that his father was experiencing in the full spectrum of life with all of its pain, sorrow, joy, and love. He recognizes that his pa, his that was suffering, and though he wishes he could go back and let his father know one more time how amazing he was. He understands his, his father was in pain here, he. You will see a true seven in one clip. Embrace the true pain and sorrow of greatest pain, but also relish in the joy and the beauty of a relationship he had with the same person he hated for so long.

Ted 32:32

He was a good dad.

Dr. Shannon 32:38

And I don't

Ted 32:38

think he knew that. I think he would've known how good he was and stuff. He didn't really care about being good at he, I don't think he would've done it, and I wish I would've told him. I wish I would've told him more. I was just so angry at him cause he was always gone at work and just out with friends or something like that. Then he was gone and I knew right then and there that I was never gonna let anybody get by me without understanding. They might be hurting inside, you know, life. It's hard. It's

Dr. Shannon 33:31

real hard. Thank you, Ted.

Ted 33:41

I don't know if this is illegal or something,

Dr. Shannon 33:43

but can I have a hug? Sure. It's okay.

Ted 33:55

Are you gonna charge

Dr. Shannon 33:55

me for this session? Of course I am okay for the house school. I appreciate your integrity.

Beth 34:03

You're welcome. One of my favorite parts about this clip is the ending. The ending beautifully encapsulates the best of the relationships between the type one and the type seven. Did you see how Ted, as he's hugging Dr. Sharon, Playfully asks, are you charging for this session? Which she says, embodying her integrity and health as a type one says yes and it's a house call. They both laughed and he says, thank you for your integrity. I love that because the one is still a one and the seven is still a seven. God created us to be who he created us to be. Not to become someone else, but to be the healthiest version of ourselves, to honor him in our growth. Allow him to work in and through us to be more like Him, and he will do that work when we are willing to go to those hard places. Those hard places that we fear, and it's important that a lot of times we do these hard self-reflection and growth with another, whether a coach or a therapist, someone who is professionally qualified for whatever your needs are. Because these are so challenging for all of us, our natural reaction and our type is to go in a very particular way, just like we see with Ted's type seven and Dr. Sharon's type one, but we aren't left to that. There's so much more to us, and the Enneagram helps us to see what our healthiest path is and that we can go there. We can be vulnerable, we can be transparent, and we can connect with one another so that real growth can happen. God has put us in community with one another, not so that we force others to be just like us, but that we can encourage them to be the best version of the way God created them. And that's what we're seeing with Ted Lasso and Dr. Sharon. Each of them invite the other to a new level of understanding of themselves. Dr. Sharon encourages Ted to be responsible and to go inward and to deal with his hurt and pain, but Ted invites her to loosen up and to have some fun that it doesn't have to always be rigid and perfect. The two of them help each other to triumph over setbacks. As we watch the complexities of their types grow, it will help us to embrace our own pain and transformation. Now, we only touched on the type one, the seven, and I hope someday to do more reflections like this, not just with Ted Lasso, but maybe other shows so that you can watch a relationship unfold. And how beautiful the dance can be when we're dancing together and not stepping on each other's toes, that we're embracing the dance of fun for the type seven, and that there are steps to be done so you don't step on each to on each other's toes as the type one our human experiences. Are great. God gives us the richness of relationships together, and I hope that by going through this together, it's opened your eyes to love others well. To love them where they are at, but the non-anxious presence, trusting that God is gonna help us to see each other for who we really are and where we're at, and that he is the one that helps us to grow. He is the one that helps us to transform. And we get to journey with one another in this process. So I highly encourage that if you have a type seven or a type one in your life, that you pass this along to them. Help them to look at their own life and how these things pop up. But I also invite you that if you have a type one and type seven in your life, to meet them halfway, to love them in the way that they understand so that they can open up and transform in a way that makes sense to them. Well, I hope that you've enjoyed this episode about Ted Lasso and Dr. Sharon and the hit series of Ted Lasso and how we have pulled the type seven Type one apart. Thank you so much for joining us, and remember that the Enneagram reveals your need for Jesus, not your need to work harder because it is the gospel that transforms us. And if you want to dive in and to grow more, we have certified Enneagram coaches that can guide you. Go to my enneagram coach.com. That's my enneagram coach.com to find an excellent Enneagram coach that will walk you through your own healing journey. And if you need a, a counselor who knows the Enneagram, we also have counselors in that directory that you can find if you need an actual counselor. So go check it out. Get your own healing, grow, and transform into who God created you to be. Thanks for joining me on this special series of your Enneagram coach, the podcast

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