Beth 1:12

So what type do you think Kevin McCallister is from Home Alone? Well, our team had a fun time discussing this movie and how each Enneagram type would handle being left home alone. So join us for this fun episode on Home Alone. Hey guys, this is Beth and this is Jeff, and this is your Enneagram coach, the podcast where we're here to help you to understand yourself with astonishing clarity so that you can break free from self condemnation, fear, and shame by knowing and experiencing the unconditional love. Forgiveness and freedom in Christ.

Angie 1:53

Hey everybody. Welcome back to your Enneagram coach, the podcast. I am Angie Elkins, producer of the show. And I have here with me several of our YEC team members. Everybody say, Hey.

Adam 2:06

Hello everybody.

Angie 2:10

And we've got a little fun filled episode for you today around the movie home alone. Now, recently, I'm going to give you credit, Adam. Because Adam brought to the team, the idea that we all discuss, what would we do if we were in the shoes of Kevin McAllister in the movie Home Alone? So, before I introduce our team to you or let them introduce themselves, I'm going to tell you guys who are listening, who were born after 1990, a little bit about the movie Home Alone. Okay, Home Alone. Was released in 1990 screenplay by John Hughes. For those of you who do not know that starring Macaulay Culkin and it actually was written, especially for him. This role was, did y'all know that I didn't know the house from the home alone movie is in Winneteka. Illinois. Did I say that right?

Adam 3:10

It's like a Chicago suburb, right?

Angie 3:13

Yeah. I guess so. I don't know. And, interesting fact, this is my last interesting fact. Uh, there is an urban legend that Elvis is actually an extra in the airport scene where the mom's trying to get home to Kevin. So if you would like to see the clip, there is a clip of that scene specifically on mentalfloss. com that I will link to in the show notes. You're welcome.

Adam 3:40

This is, this is my favorite Christmas movie. So Macaulay Culkin, so eight year old Kevin McAllister is a little bit of a brat. Let's be honest about that. And, um, he gets himself put up in the attic the night before his family, the McAllister family is supposed to spend Christmas in Paris. They're going to leave. There are a series of unfortunate events. The McAllister's mistakenly leave for the airport without Kevin. So Kevin wakes up to an empty house, his family's gone.

Angie 4:11

Talk about childhood wins. Let's just

Adam 4:13

say, I'm going to get into the six. Talk about a six core fear of abandonment being activated. Holy cow. Okay. But we'll get into that in a second. So no one's home. Uh, and at first Kevin is excited about this because the night before he had gotten into some conflict with his family. Uh, he made a wish that his whole family would disappear, and when he wakes up, he assumes that his wish has come true, uh, but then his excitement is spoiled when he realizes that two con men, played by the great Joe Pesci and Daniel Stern, That's right. Plan to rob the Macalester residence, or as they call it, the silver tuna, and, uh, Kevin has to protect the family home. Now, Kevin has a dilemma, he's home alone, hence the title of the film, and he has to protect the Macalester home, and he has to do it all by himself, and he doesn't know where his family is, or if he's wished them away, or what's happened, and so that's the plot. That's the scenario.

Angie 5:16

Adam, this one's for you. Okay. What Enneagram type do you think Kevin Callister is?

Adam 5:22

Oh, listen, I, I'm, I get a lot and I welcome all the feedback here from, from listeners, from everybody on this call, but I get a lot of 60 vibes from Kevin. I think there's a lot of 60 stuff, six ish kind of vibes that you pick up with, with Kevin, because you get this vibe that he's thought through everything. Um, you know, he, he has every, all the what ifs, every entrance is covered, whether it's ice on the stairs or a searing hot doorknob. Uh, if you're going to try to come through the window, he's got, you know, you're going to step on Legos and hit the glass Christmas ornaments are waiting to destroy your feet. Uh, if you want to chase him upstairs, great. He's got paint cans with ropes tied to them and you're going to lose your gold tooth. You know, um, if you want to chase him out the window to the tree house, he's going to cut the rope and then set it on fire in home alone to, you know, he knows somehow he's thought, he's thought through, like, he knows that you're going to put your head in the toilet after he set your head on fire. So he puts kerosene in the toilet. It's, it's just like, he's thought through it all, all the what ifs, all the scenarios, like he's. And so I, I mean, you know, I mean, prove, prove me wrong.

Angie 6:42

Well, I think Abby, Abby, do you agree? A hundred

Beth 6:46

percent. Yeah. He's a six. Well, and what type are you, Adam and Abby? I'm a six.

Adam 6:53

I'm

Beth 6:54

not biased. Yeah, he's definitely a six. Insightful.

Jeff 7:01

So, this is Jeff McCord, um, the Enneagram Coach's husband. That's all you need to know. Um, but Type 6. There's, there's a part of me that thinks, though, the initial reaction to his family abandoning him was I can live my best life now. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. That doesn't feel like a

Adam 7:23

sick spot. That's true. That's true.

Jeff 7:25

My first core memory of little Jeffrey is as a five year old, my parents went to go, they were moving that day and I stayed, I found out last year that I was staying at my grandfather's, grandparent's house. And I spent the day looking out the window wondering if they were ever going to come back and get me

Angie 7:46

that just got real dark

Adam 7:48

Wow

Beth 7:49

So

Jeff 7:56

I did not immediately think this is gonna be awesome I'm gonna go on an adventure

Beth 8:02

So

Abby 8:02

to that I would agree. 'cause Adam, we were having a little private DMM earlier with a few of us, um, sixes. And one of the things that I noted was number one, if he as a six, I feel like he would've never been home alone to begin with because he would've been more like the Kevin in home alone. Two where like, where's Kevin? And he's already in the van, he's already got his bags. He's like preloaded self, you know, self accounted for Mm-Hmm. Um, but then also. Yes, when he is home, I feel like my gut reaction would be, Okay, now I need to find help. Like, let me go through the list of all the things that I need to do in order to be safe. As opposed to hearty

Brandon 8:45

hearty,

Jeff 8:46

this is going to be an episode of memories for me. So whenever I was in elementary school I slept walked and so There was one evening Beth Beth has just turned away laughing right now This is my response to what happens when a crisis is happening. I Jumped into my closet to try to avoid the flames that were happening in my nightmare. I stripped off all of my clothes, except for my underwear, my tighty whities. Went into the living room and yelled, Mom and Dad, get out of the house! Sprinted across the street and knocked on the neighbor's door like, let me in. I need help. So I wasn't there to fight the fire. I was there to go get help. I'm not sure if this kid is a six. Okay. Now, of course that just might be Jeff's abandonment issue. So I may be, it should be sharing way too much over here, but

Adam 9:53

I just want to go on record that this is the second time. You've told this wonderful story on the podcast and I'm going to try to work this in. Anytime we're, we're on the podcast together, I'm going to try to work this. It's my favorite. Well, and here's the thing. It's your nightmare, but it's my life. I feel like that's how I live every

Jeff 10:14

day running around in your underwear.

Adam 10:17

I might as well be. And everything's on fire and I'm vulnerable. That's what it feels.

Beth 10:24

So if you wanted to know what it's like to be a six, there you go. There it is. There it is. Abby's covering her face. Well, I, this is Beth. Oh,

Jeff 10:33

now the professional Enneagram coach comes on and

Adam 10:36

is going to correct

Jeff 10:37

us all. I

Beth 10:37

haven't watched it in a while, but I have seen it several times. My gut, though I haven't studied it, so again, I would love to hear other people's thoughts. My gut says seven. Um, because he leans hard into the six space and I can just see Chris, Christina shear, who's on this podcast as well. Yeah. Like she navigates things like there's no one's business. We call her our air traffic controller, but with joy. And so she's navigating why you see the team and all the stuff that's happening, but she's does it with like a smile and with some joy. Um, And so I kind of see, you know, Kevin in a movie as that kind of, you know, pushing, you know, the family's buttons, wanting what he wants, wishing his family away and like getting his wish. Like, this is awesome. This is exciting. But then, yeah, the sixth, the sixth moment of. Hey, we got to lock this down. We got to think through and he's creative. Sevens are super creative and he's thinking of all the ways that he can protect himself in the home, but he does it also with some kind of fun flair, right? Like he has these cutouts of people dancing and he's dancing, like who's dancing when your house is going to be broken into who does

Jeff 11:50

this? Yeah, I

Adam 11:51

wasn't, wasn't dancing.

Joe 11:52

Joe here from Michigan. Uh, he avoids pain, the entire movie, the pain that his family left him.

Brandon 11:59

With

Adam 11:59

a mic drop.

Beth 12:03

That's right. Joe, Joe, your type is

Joe 12:05

what? I identify as a five. And your Graham coach from Michigan.

Beth 12:10

Yeah. Joe took our becoming any Graham coach course a couple of years ago. So he's a certified coach. We brought him in to represent type fives who. Um, but yeah, bringing that insight, I think is super, but then he also has that eight, right? So he, uh, he brings in that strength of protection. No, one's going to harm me. I can do this. You know, that there's that eight quality in him. That's pretty, pretty remarkable as well. So Brandon, our resident type three,

Brandon 12:46

um, Yes, my name is Brandon. I am a type three Man, I think I was really thinking that you guys were on the right track with the seven thing And I also was thinking I was thinking maybe like elements of type five, having just like details and like all these, like, like, like basically building kind of like Rube Goldberg machine in his house. If you've ever seen those before, but I was like, I don't know if he himself is a type five, but seven and five are connected. So I think, I think the seven theory is,

Angie 13:19

is solid. Pretty good. So here's a couple of things I noticed about him that I thought were very unusual. And I wondered if they could be type specific, of course, these are behaviors. Our intention is not to stereotype. I want to say that on behalf of Beth, because we definitely don't like to stereotype around here, but we are just kind of speaking from our own type, but I did notice he took multiple showers. He did laundry. And he went shopping, he did things like very responsible things, by the way, he was playing an eight year old child. Macaulay Culkin was actually 10 when he filmed this. And honestly, I would have guessed he was six.

Beth 14:01

My thought with that would be if we were to stick with the seven theme is that he was under stress. Yeah, right. So he's picking up some of those one type qualities being responsible. And, and as a seven, it's like, Hey, it's great. If everyone else can take care of these mundane, boring tasks, but, uh, no one's around. So that one probably kicked in, especially the responsible six. The eight get it done kicks in as well. Yeah.

Angie 14:28

That's so interesting. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about what we would've done if we had been left home alone. And Jeff, I know you have a story about this because you, you were left home alone. So why don't, why don't you tell us? Yes.

Jeff 14:42

Well, I mean one, clearly I have a tendency to want to go get help. Well, despite whatever clothes I may or may not be wearing, uh, but so my mom loved Stephen King books, which also translated to horror movies. And so for some reason, I remember being home alone. My parents had gone out and I'm just at home and I watched a horror movie. I don't remember what, if it was zombies, if it was vampires, whatever arch enemies to humanity we've come up with in movies, they were clearly in the backyard and I knew they were in the backyard. And so I did not think to myself, what do I need to do to go kill them? I built a tent and as a child, everybody knows that when you build a tent, you're protected from everything, right? And so I I hid in a tent so I I would have not Built any devices to harm people

Angie 15:50

Well, there is that scene when he ziplined into the treehouse, and I thought to myself, I would have done that way earlier. I would have done that so nobody could find me. But okay, this may surprise you as an Enneagram 8 about what I'm about to say. I would have been afraid. If I had been left home alone like that, I would have been afraid. And I would have gone and found a neighbor. I mean, all the family members were gone, so you couldn't call a family member. But I would have found a neighbor or called someone from church in my case and said, I've been left home alone. And I would have gone to their house. And the end after I opened the presents,

Beth 16:28

it's so funny that you even mentioned it. I like never once ever thought, are there presents? Never,

Jeff 16:39

never. Yeah. I don't even think I brought snacks into my tent. And like, I, I just immediately just went into protective mode. Yeah.

Beth 16:48

So as a type nine, I would be like, cause I think we were, the question was like, would this happen to you? And as a nine, we're all going, well, yeah, of course I'd be overlooked. I live overlooked. And then, so then if I got left at home, I would probably get overwhelmed and initially shut down. But then I would. Definitely go to a neighbor's house and get help because I remember this was 1990. There were no cell phones. Like it wasn't like you could just pick up a cell phone or even like if you like calling people at your church at nine years old or whatever age he was, like, I don't think I even knew where to look to get someone's phone number. Yeah,

Angie 17:33

I did. Yeah. I want to hear from Joe. If you had been number one, would you have been left at home alone? And if so, how would you have responded?

Joe 17:43

Well, I would've been left at home like normal because probably pretty just responsible and objective about how I went about my life. at that age.

Adam 17:51

And, and it's the eighties. It's the eighties, right, right. So it's like, oh, totally. Yeah.

Joe 17:55

Eight is like 16 latchkey kids. Yeah. Uh, you know, one, I don't think it would happen because I would've been first up making sure everybody else was gonna be there on time. That's still true in my life today. capable and competent. You know, one thing we can do is be on time, uh. Also, but if it did happen, I probably would have been like, man, it's kind of nice that the house is quiet. It was exhausting the

Jeff 18:18

night before people are such an honest. That's so

Angie 18:26

true. That's so true.

Jeff 18:27

Yes.

Beth 18:28

I love the five. Finally gets his peace and quiet.

Adam 18:32

Yeah.

Joe 18:33

Got all the rooms to explore by

Adam 18:35

myself.

Angie 18:36

I love it. I love it. Okay. Brandon. What as, as a resident three here. What would your experience be?

Brandon 18:45

Well, I was, while we're sharing our, our childhood traumas, um, I, growing up, I had this really strangely irrational fear at getting stuck somewhere when it was like closed. So like, for example, like, let's say we walk into Target and it's like. Like they close at 8 and I'm there at like 7. 50. I like even to this day. I'm like, oh we got to get out of here. They're going to like lock us in. Like I remember my mom would tell me that like when we went to Disney as a kid after the fireworks, you know, the park closes and I'd be like we have to leave like we can't be here. And so just being the concept of being stuck somewhere. Is, is super, uh, terrifying for me. So I would super hate that. I don't know where that fear comes from. We can, we can cycle and analyze

Jeff 19:32

that. Hey Bryn, I'm going to send you some TikToks cause there's a TikTok guys who try to stay in stores overnight. Oh my word. So like they hide in different things at Home Depot, at Walmart, uh, just to see what would happen.

Adam 19:47

That's how Harry and Marv break into the toy store in New York City in part two. They hide in the toy store, Duncan's toy chest, they hide in there. This is one of my theories about why Kevin could possibly be an 8, okay? My, my middle child, Susanna, has on two occasions put her hand on the stomach of an adult and pushed back and challenged an adult physically, like, like. One at one point like one of our dearest friends like the people that we trust and love and adore that are amazing We're like how babysitting all three of our kids and Susanna interpreted right children are wonderful observers and terrible interpreters Susanna interpreted that this this let this woman who's our friend was being unfair and mean to her little sister, Georgie. And Susanna pushed the woman, like this grown woman, right? 48 year old woman, Susanna pushes her and says, you will not be mean to my sister. So I just, I think like Kevin's got a certain, yeah, he's afraid. I mean, everybody's afraid, but he has this, he has this ability to like, I'm going to, when those guys come back, I'll be ready. He says, he's like, I'm going to stick it to him, you know? So I think there's just a lot of, a lot of eight energy. Now, we were speculating earlier, I want to hear your thoughts on this, Beth, but we were speculating earlier about what type Buzz is and someone, uh, threw out that he could possibly be a six and, uh, Lydia's response was brilliant because so there's no way Buzz is a six because A, he doesn't have that anxious energy and B, his jokes are terrible. So, there's no way Buzz is a six, but I think Kevin could be an eight. What do you think about that, Beth?

Beth 21:36

Yeah, you know, I think Kevin, uh, for sure could be an eight with more of a seven wing. I don't see a ton of nine energy there. Um, whereas I see, like, if he was a seven, I see pretty equal parts six and eight coming out. And then the five and the one. But the 8, I think, is plausible because I, okay, so you're going to have to forgive me, Adam, because I am not as up to date on all things Home Alone. So you'll have to, but doesn't he help the elderly man? Well,

Adam 22:10

the elderly man helps Kevin in the end, right, Abby? Right, right. Yeah.

Beth 22:14

Is that right? Yes, but

Abby 22:16

Kevin also helps him with the, with his granddaughter.

Beth 22:19

That's right. And his son.

Angie 22:21

So he tells them to repair the relationship with his son.

Beth 22:25

So, and that's a very eight like quality, you know, protector justice. So I think there is something towards the two. With the six could be, yeah, I'm just saying, I'm, I'm giving like, like if, if he was an eight, I'm saying he's moving in that eight to space where he's moving towards compassion and empathy and making sure that that relationship is protected and mended. But if we're sticking with the seven, then yes, that would be definitely a loyalty commitment responsibility piece of the six. So I think both are very, very plausible, though I see much more fun energy coming out of Kevin. I do too.

Angie 23:08

So is there anyone here who would actually fight the robbers? No.

Beth 23:14

No. Oh my gosh. No.

Christina 23:16

Absolutely. Seven chiming in here. Absolutely. Are you kidding me? Oh, hello.

Angie 23:22

Well, there we have it. Yeah.

Beth 23:26

I'm

Christina 23:26

listening to this conversation having quite an internal dialogue right now because my family is actually choosing to go to North Carolina with, um, My to visit my nephew and I'm like realizing as I'm saying this out loud, it's about to be on a podcast. So I'm like not going to tell anyone where I live, but I'm realizing that I'm choosing to stay home alone as

Beth 23:52

a seven

Christina 23:54

and I'm like, this is terrifying. But I'm also thinking. Yeah, I was like, what preventative measures do I need just in case, you know, cause my sweet little puppy is not going to get the job done, 17 pounds of cuteness. He's not going to protect me if anything goes down, but just that, that reality of a protectiveness because I think about in childhood when we were, we used to play a lot of soccer and do a lot of traveling. There was one situation in my childhood while. playing sports and traveling all over the place that my parents actually left me at a gas station and like drove down the road and then realized and came back and got me. And I would say for probably 90 percent of the time that I was not with them, I didn't even notice because first off, there was no FOMO cause I was busy looking at the candy and what beverage to drink. And I was just distracted by this new and I had never been before, but then I remember realizing I was alone. And of course it's before cell phones. So you're just like standing there. I don't even think I knew my parents phone number to like have someone call. Thankfully they came back and got me. But I just, I think about that and how whenever I go to the gas station now, I don't realize this, but I definitely abide by a buddy system.

Abby 25:29

I would say real quick as a six, like I wouldn't, But the booby traps, a hundred percent, like, yes, booby traps and I am a generation Goonie kid and booby traps.

Angie 25:44

Yeah. Well, what is it about this movie that you and Adam specifically love? What is it? It's Home Alone. Yeah. I don't, I don't enjoy this movie. Like, I, I don't like I, the first part, first of all, meanest people in the world are these parents like his, somebody in his

Adam 26:03

family called him a jerk. That was okay. That's what I was about to say. The parents are not mean. Uncle Frank is mean. How about that? How about that line from uncle Frank? How about that line from uncle Frank on the plane when he looks at Catherine O'Hara's character and he says, if it makes you feel any better, I forgot my reading glasses. That. I mean, this guy has no, no awareness, no awareness at all. Yeah. Okay.

Angie 26:28

And Buzz, the brother, awful. If my children talked to each other that way, I would not be happy. Mm hmm.

Beth 26:36

Me too. Oh, man.

Angie 26:38

But the whole booby trap thing, it reminds me of like that, um, that kind of like Abbott and Costello humor, which I think is so dumb. Little slapstick. I do not get into it. I hate it.

Abby 26:50

Good grief. I'm not huge on slapstick comedy, but like Home Alone is pristine. Um, it's every six's like worst fear. But also like the overcoming of it in such a hilarious way, um, and like he handled business and I feel

Angie 27:10

like

Beth 27:11

he took care

Adam 27:11

of business. Yeah, he did. He, he, he turned into an assassin. He, he, he had a ton of courage. He, he, uh, walked through his fear and in the end he, he overcomes and he's reunited with his family. So. Uh, you know, and I think, I don't know what I would have done on it, who does, but as a 6, you know, who, uh, leans on all three subtypes, I mean, I could, I could see myself hiding and waiting for help, I could, just praying in a closet and hiding, like I could see myself running, and I could see myself fighting, so fight, flight, or freeze, right, I could see myself doing any of those things, uh, and I, I, you know, especially in my younger days, I tend to lean more into that counterphobic, So I, I could, I don't know, you know, maybe, you know, try to get bigger than my fear and fight these,

Beth 28:01

these idiots. And now that you've watched it in your professional movie, um, what is, what would, what do they call it? A critique? Critic? You now have all of the booby traps locked in your mind. So you are, you're ready to go.

Angie 28:16

You're ready.

Adam 28:17

I'm ready. Yeah, I'm ready to fight. Yeah, I'm

Angie 28:20

ready to go. Brandon, do you enjoy this movie, Brandon, as a three?

Brandon 28:26

I think it's a pretty fun movie. I, I didn't grow up watching it. I watched it like more recently for the first time and I fully understand after watching it like knowing why it stands in like the halls of Christmas movie like fame. Um, I think it deserves that spot. I think it's really good. You know, there's some Christmas movies that Are are not so great, but like people love them. I think this is a really great like die hard I think I don't know if I would I'm, not i'm not seen died hard

Jeff 28:58

No christian spirit

Brandon 29:01

I I think to the fighting thing I I don't know if I would try to fight them. I would like to maybe think that I could use my like three powers of being really like Winsome and kind and persuasive to maybe, like, befriend the bad guys and convince them that they need to not attack my home. Um, I don't, but, but I can't, I can't join sides with them. I can't, cause, you know, cause then that'd be bad. But I could at least maybe steer them away. Real quick,

Abby 29:30

um, Brandon, I would love your insight on this. Um, we had mentioned in the thread earlier that a three would probably never be in the situation because a three wouldn't End up in the attic, like a three would like make it right and would never be in the attic to begin with. Do you agree? Yeah.

Brandon 29:50

Yeah, I definitely agree. I'm also, I lean more on my like self preservation. Um, so I'm, I'm very kind of, I look a lot like a one, a type one. So a lot of like, I really want to be like a good boy and so, yeah, I would not want to have anyone like be on, to be on anyone's bad side. So yes.

Adam 30:11

You mean you would have never spoken to your mother the way Kevin speaks to his? Well,

Jeff 30:15

his mom wouldn't have allowed it. I dare!

Adam 30:20

Yeah, you guys know his mom, right? Oh, I'll tell you one thing, I dare, I do not want to be in the room if my children speak to my wife that way. Oh my God. Um, Hey, so you, since you, you know, and I don't want to take the conversation anywhere where it doesn't, where we don't want to go, but I just, I have to say Hey. Since Abby, you mentioned the thread. Yes, we were talking earlier about this, this movie and I feel like Lydia, who is our another six on our team, she deserves to be mentioned here. She's had some great insights and Abby, you jump in and everybody jump in. But here's some, there's some things that Lydia said, you know, we had, I don't know if we've talked a lot about a type one, but Lydia said, if you're a type one, there'd be no movie. Because immediately a type one would wake up and turn themselves into the police because they feel so guilty for making their parents disappear. So that's it movie over, you know, because the guilt of like, I wished my parents away and they, and they went away like it happened. So I don't know what you guys think about that. A type two would never, would never wish for their parents to disappear.

Beth 31:34

Well, and I mean, can you imagine the, the feeling of being rejected? I mean, talk about. I mean, uh, that, that, uh, two may not ever come back from that being, being put in the attic. Yeah. And then forgotten.

Adam 31:49

Joe, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this because Lydia said that a type five would have the best traps drawn out, like the best plans. So the difference is one,

Joe 31:57

we would have called it, got the police there a lot sooner, right? Cause that's just objectively smart on a number of numbers. That's what I experienced when I watched movies. I'm like, didn't I just like think that. You know, there is a different path, but anyways, it's supposed to be fun. So we can go with it. Uh, no, the traps would be just a little bit better and maybe take out the Joe. Robbers.

Brandon 32:19

To improve it. I like this. Wow.

Joe 32:24

So they're going to go down the stairs and they're not coming back. What

Beth 32:30

did Lydia say about fours? Did she have anything?

Adam 32:33

No, she, you know, we, we were just like, what a four, like, just like, I mean, curl up and cry. Like, what, what, what, what, what do you do if you're a type four in this situation? I mean, like, come on, like you, you gotta feel so misunderstood and so alone and uh, I mean, what do you do? You know? I mean, do you do what Kevin does? Do you, do you turn on movies and make yourself a bunch of ice cream and, or is that, is that what a seven does? I mean, I'm, I don't, I'm not sure.

Beth 33:00

Well, yeah, like you're right. Like you would feel so misunderstood and tragically flawed that you were left behind. Yes,

Adam 33:05

it'd be devastating.

Beth 33:07

I mean, in the attic, I'll be honest as a type nine, like literally you couldn't get any worse than this. Like this would like put the nail in the coffin. My presence literally does not matter because my entire family is now in Europe and I'm here.

Angie 33:26

I even wonder if the six. When put in the attic for the night would have already thought through What if they forget me in the morning? Like they could get up and go, you know what I'm saying? So, I don't know. Okay. Well, this has been a great discussion. Is there anything Beth McCord that you would like to say to wrap this discussion up?

Beth 33:52

Yeah. So as a nine I'm just gonna let everyone know that I would not leave any of y'all behind. Yes,

Adam 34:00

thank you. Thank you.

Beth 34:03

Everyone's presence matters. I mean, I mean, but in all seriousness, it's like, oh my gosh, this is so terrible. Um, but yeah, I mean, I think we all matter. We all have gifts, and I think it's, these kind of topics are fun because it really does show how each of us would respond differently. I mean, I'd be like, no, I'm out. It's kind of like the zombie apocalypse. Like, nah. Not going to fight robbers. That's not going to happen. But I love Christina's, you know, gut response real quickly is like, yeah, I would, you know, I mean, and that kind of goes more into what we were saying about being a seven with an eight wing. Probably a little bit more than an eight with a seven wing. Um, because like you said, Angie, being an eight, like I would be scared, you know, and I think there's something about that seven reframing that keeps things like, Oh no, I got this, you know, I can do this. Um, And so, but, you know, I think it's fun to kind of take a stab at all these things. And it just shows us that we all can enter in the same situation in the same space, but we're going to see it differently. We're going to have different strengths and weaknesses. And that's why, you know, for me, it's so important that we all see the body of Christ, that we need each other. We need to lean on each other. We need to utilize one another. And so for this Christmas holiday, let's do just that. Let's not. Leave each other behind, but stay focused on one another, love each other well, and have a great Christmas. Right,

Abby 35:26

Christina's, um, having some mic problems, but if I can just say she sent me a text, she just wants you to know that she feels redeemed because

Beth 35:32

she died so early in the zombie episode, that is

Abby 35:36

taking this place as Kevin, as a seven. She's very happy for

Angie 35:41

that. I love it.

Adam 35:43

Hey if if we want it if we really want to connect this Let's be honest here. We all have a little Kevin in the attic that needs some help. So Yeah, you could if you listen if you really, you know, pay attention to what's going on in your soul You may get activated around the holidays Um, and so I think that's a great word to end on Beth and I think Kevin, when he grows up is going to need an Enneagram coach to help him get unstuck and move forward. So Kevin, if you're listening, go to my Enneagram coach. com and find an Enneagram coach and help get Kevin out of the attic.

Angie 36:22

That's it. That's it. Merry Christmas. Thanks everybody. Merry Christmas. Merry

Beth 36:25

Christmas.

Abby 36:26

Bye.